LIBLICENSE-L Archives

LibLicense-L Discussion Forum

LIBLICENSE-L@LISTSERV.CRL.EDU

Options: Use Classic View

Use Monospaced Font
Show Text Part by Default
Show All Mail Headers

Topic: [<< First] [< Prev] [Next >] [Last >>]

Print Reply
LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]>
Thu, 19 Jul 2012 18:42:54 -0400
text/plain (92 lines)
From: Stevan Harnad <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 19 Jul 2012 08:49:20 -0400

On Wed, Jul 18, 2012 at 7:21 AM, Kiley, Robert [Wellcome Trust] wrote:

> My reading of the RCUK policy is somewhat different to Stevan’s.  In short, I see clear parallels between what Finch recommended (disclosure – I sat on the Finch Working Group) and the RCUK policy.
>
> ·         Finch recommended gold OA and flexible funding arrangements to cover OA gold costs.  RCUK have released a policy that allows for gold publishing, and provides flexible funding (via block grants to HEI’s) to support these aims.
>
> ·         Finch said when publishers didn't offer a mechanism to pay for OA gold, it was reasonable for funders to demand an embargo period of less than 12 months.  [See paragraph 9.10 of the Finch Report].  The RCUK have followed this.
>
> ·         Finch said that support of OA publications should be supported by policies to “minimise restrictions on the rights of use and re-use”.  RCUK have followed this, and indeed pushed further to require than when an APC is levied the article must be published under a CC-BY licence.  This is identical to the policy change the Wellcome Trust announced at the end of June.
>
> There were a long string of posts on this forum at the end of last week calling for an end to the counter-productive squabbling over the minutiae of differences between green and gold, the obsession with costing models, etc.  The RCUK policy is entirely compatible with the recommendations of the Finch Report, and continually rubbishing Finch seems counter-productive on many levels.

In response to Robert, let's keep it simple and go straight to the
heart of the matter:

1. Ever since the historic 2004 Report of the UK Parliamentary Select
Committee which made the revolutionary recommendation to mandate (what
has since come to be called) Green OA self-archiving as well as to
fund (what has since come to be called) Gold OA journal fees, RCUK
(and later EC and other funding councils worldwide) have been
mandating Green and funding Gold.

2. The Finch report recommended phasing out Green and only funding Gold.

3. RCUK and EC declined to follow the Finch recommendation and
reaffirmed (and strengthened) their Green OA mandates.

That's the substance of the "squabbling over the minutiae of
differences between green and gold".

The Finch Report is "compatible with the recommendations of the Finch
Report" only in the sense that A & B is more "compatible" with -A & B
than with -A & -B. (RCUK could, I suppose, have suspended both its
Green mandate and its Gold funding, contradicting its own prior
policy, but it did not…)

The Wellcome Trust's pioneering historic lead in OA has since 2004
alas hardened into rigid dogma, at the cost of much lost growth
potential for OA (as well as of much potential research funding).

The 2004 Select Committee's prescient recommendation eight years ago
had been this:

“This Report recommends that all UK higher education institutions
establish institutional repositories on which their published output
can be stored and from which it can be read, free of charge, online.
It also recommends that Research Councils and other Government funders
mandate their funded researchers to deposit a copy of all of their
articles in this way... [T]o encourage… experimentation… the Report
[also] recommends that the Research Councils each establish [an
experimental] fund to which their funded researchers can apply should
they wish to pay to publish...”
http://www.publications.parliament.uk/pa/cm200304/cmselect/cmsctech/399/39903.htm

CC-BY is not nearly as urgent and important as "Gratis" OA (free
online access): not all authors want it, most users don't need it, and
it would immediately make endorsing un-embargoed Green ruinous to
subscription publishers: so demanding it today, pre-emptively leads to
less OA and longer embargoes (just as demand for pre-emptive Gold
does).
See:
Overselling the Importance and Urgency of CC-BY/CC-BY-NC for
Peer-Reviewed Scholarly and Scientific Research
http://openaccess.eprints.org/index.php?/archives/909-.html

(Lest it sound as if I am lauding the pre-emptive funding of Gold
today: I am not. It was historically important to demonstrate that
fee-based Gold OA is conceivable and viable, in order to fend off the
publishing lobby's doomsday contention that OA would destroy
publishing. So the early Gold OA proof-of-principle, especially by
PLOS-Biology and PLOS-Medicine, was very timely and useful. But the
subsequent mindless Gold Rush, at the expense of neglecting the
enormous power of cost-free Green OA mandates to accelerate the growth
of OA, not to mention the needless waste of money diverted from
research to fund Gold pre-emptively, have been exceedingly detrimental
to overall OA growth. The simplest way to summarize the underlying
logic and pragmatics is that pre-Green-OA pre-emptive Gold OA, at
today's inflated asking prices and while subscriptions still prevail,
is extremely bad for OA progress: wasteful, unscalable, and
unsustainable, it generates very little global OA, very slowly. In
contrast, post-Green-OA, downsized Gold OA, once Green OA has
prevailed globally, making subscriptions unsustainable and forcing
journals to downsize and convert to Gold OA for peer review service
alone, at a far lower cost, paid out of subscription cancelation
savings instead of scarce research funds, will be affordable, scalable
and sustainable)

Stevan Harnad

ATOM RSS1 RSS2