From: "Jean-Claude Guédon" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 9 Jun 2017 18:34:18 -0400

Beall's list could have done so much good work if he had accepted
collaborating with other, complementary, organizations, such as DOAJ.
I suggested this to him, once, but in vain. he did not even respond or
explain why he would not do such a thing.

It must never be forgotten that Beall's list never clearly
distinguished between bad publications and open access publications,
particularly if the latter did not originate with a well known,
preferably Western-based, publisher. Hindawi temporarily fell victim
to this kind of behaviour. So did the Scielo platform, once described
as publishing "favelas" by Beall. By muddying th waters as much as he
did, Beall did at least as much harm as he did good.

Jean-Claude Guidon


Le jeudi 08 juin 2017 à 20:09 -0400, LIBLICENSE a écrit :
From: Byron Russell <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 8 Jun 2017 08:17:53 +0000

I quite agree. It was too easy (or lazy?) to see the list as being the
go-to place for information about predatory publishers, several of
whom – bona fide academic publishers – are hosted by Ingenta Connect,
which gave rise to some concern as to what exactly the compiler’s
parameters were. Like the DOAJ, we prefer to carry our own vetting
procedures when approached by new publishers seeking our hosting
services.

Byron

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Ingenta

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From: David Prosser <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, 7 Jun 2017 07:20:05 +0000

Indeed.  And the lives and livelihoods of some of people who worked
for the publishers that were arbitrarily targeted by the list were
affected. There is no excuse for harassment,  but there must be an
acknowledgement that Beall’s whims had negative consequences,
consequences that we magnified by the importance we collectively gave
to the list .

David

On 6 Jun 2017, at 23:58, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Aline Soules <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, 5 Jun 2017 21:56:29 -0700

Unfortunately, some of the journals on the list weren't predatory;
yet, in some tenure cases, publications were discounted because the
journal was on the list.  If anyone picks up on this list again, I
hope the first thing the person does is check on the status of every
journal on the list.  This affects people's work lives significantly.

Aline
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