From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 20:17:14 -0400

I wouldn't worry too much about increases in article prices for Gold
author-pays OA.   Those prices are bound to drop quite a bit.  It's a
commodity business:  one hosting service is as good as another.  You
could be selling bags of rice.

Joe Esposito


On Thu, Nov 1, 2012 at 5:33 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: ANTHONY WATKINSON <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, 1 Nov 2012 10:06:17 +0000
>
> Has anyone worked out cost per article increases? I am sure there has
> been an increase and I would not be surprised if it was over (US)
> inflation?
>
> Anthony
>
> ________________________________
> From: Dan Scott <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Wed, 31 Oct 2012 13:47:47 +0000
>
> I thought the video was engaging and had good visual impact. I liked the
> animation.
>
> I disagree somewhat with Sandy's views. The increase in submitted output was
> ruthlessly exploited by publishers: firstly, by hiking prices of existing
> journals to disproportionate levels; secondly, by using the advent of online
> databases to produce more and more journals, which may or may not be of high
> quality. Bulking up the overall journal numbers allowed publishers to charge
> ever-higher prices on the basis that there was extra content; and thirdly,
> annual percentage increases are often way above inflation. There are other
> things wrong within scholarly publishing that contribute to the situation we
> are in (such as the conflation between journal citations and research
> funding), but in the case of pricing I think the traditional publishers are
> the main culprits.
>
> I've worked with libraries all over the world and under-funding has never
> been a major complaint; rather, that budgets will simply never keep pace
> with the insatiable demands of subscriptions.
>
> I agree that article processing charges that are set too high risk becoming
> barriers in their own right.
>
> DAN SCOTT
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Sun, 28 Oct 2012 15:01:48 -0500
>
> A useful video to explain the basics of open access to people who haven't
> heard about it before, but as a publisher I naturally find that it
> oversimplifies some important points. E.g., it implies that publishers alone
> are to blame for the increasing costs (and hence
> prices) of publishing scientific articles, without mentioning anywhere the
> rate of increase in the production of articles by scientists who want to get
> them published and the reaction by publishers to launch new journals and
> expand the size of already existing ones.  Nor does it mention the practice
> of universities underfunding both their libraries and their own presses
> (while they are happy to spend lots more on football and basketball teams).
>
> The question of how taxpayer-funded research can best be disseminated in
> unrestricted form is never addressed either, such as the longstanding
> proposal to require that all researchers be required to submit final reports
> and that those reports be made freely available immediately upon submission.
> And while it acknowledges that publishing costs money, there is no
> acknowledgment that OA approaches may exacerbate some problems--like drawing
> money out of research funding to support article publication charges--while
> ameliorating others.  Hence I would hardly call this video a balanced
> presentation.
>
> Sandy Thatcher
>
>
> > From: Ken Masters <[log in to unmask]>
> > Date: Fri, 26 Oct 2012 19:46:06 +0400
> >
> > Hi All
> >
> > You might find this recent video on Open Access interesting:
> >
> > http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=L5rVH1KGBCY#!
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Ken
> >
> > Dr. Ken Masters
> > Asst. Professor: Medical Informatics
> > Medical Education Unit
> > College of Medicine & Health Sciences
> > Sultan Qaboos University
> > Sultanate of Oman