From: George Porter <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 8 Jun 2012 02:06:34 +0000

UCSF is a graduate-level biomedical campus.  Rockefeller University is the
closest equivalent I can think of.  There are humanities and social
sciences departments affected by the UCSF policy.

George S. Porter
Sherman Fairchild Library of Engineering and Applied Science
Caltech, 1-43
Pasadena, CA 91125-4300


On 6/7/12 5:49 PM, "LIBLICENSE" <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 23:27:56 -0500
>
> I don't consider it a "minor" point. Some institutions, in fact, have
> established OA policies only for certain parts. Harvard, for example,
> has an OA policy that applies to its Faculty of Arts and Sciences. I'm
> not aware that it is a university-wide policy that applies also, for
> example, to the Business School or the Law School. At Stanford it was
> the School of Education that first adopted an OA policy.
>
> The announcement mentions "scientific" throughout. One would never
> know, without reading the actual policy, that it applies to the
> humanities and social sciences as well. I consider that a failure to
> properly communicate the actual facts of the policy.
>
> Sandy Thatcher
>
>
> At 8:05 PM -0400 6/6/12, LIBLICENSE wrote:
>
>> From: Klaus Graf <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Wed, 6 Jun 2012 13:04:27 +0200
>>
>> I do not think it is helpful to discuss such minor points. It is clear
>> enough that OA mandates refer to the scholarly output (in the field of
>> science and arts/humanities) of an institution. Mandates are
>> self-obligations, not legal texts.
>>
>> I cannot find that "final version" is'nt clear. If the "version of
>> record" can be used it can be deposited - otherwise  only the "final
>> draft" (version after peer review if a peer review was performed). So
>> there is no doubt that this is an Green OA approach.
>>
>> Klaus Graf
>>
>>
>> 2012/6/5 LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]>:
>>>
>>>  From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
>>>  Date: Mon, 4 Jun 2012 23:44:58 -0500
>>>
>>>  This press release emphasizes "scientific articles," but the policy
>>>  itself is not limited to articles in the sciences but to all faculty
>>>  articles of any kind.
>>>
>>>  The policy refers to the "final version" of the article, but provides
>>>  no definition of what that term means.  So, is this a Green OA
>>>  approach, or not?
>>>
>>>  It would be helpful if such policies and their accompanying press
>>>  releases were written with greater clarity.
>>>
>>>  Sandy Thatcher