From: Francesca Musina <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 19 Mar 2013 16:40:20 +0100

I agree, I think it is important that our needs and our objections are
clear to publishers, although it has little to no effect (for the
moment).

The subject of post-cancellation access is of great importance,
especially at a time of large budget cuts for universities.

Francesca

Francesca Musina
Università degli Studi di Torino
Direzione Ricerca, Relazioni Internazionali, Biblioteche e Musei
Biblioteca Digitale
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Il 19.03.2013 02:44 LIBLICENSE ha scritto:

> From: "Sterk, J.M.E." <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Mon, 18 Mar 2013 11:10:20 +0000
>
> To sign a contract under protest has no legal value whatsoever. We do
> add to the email or letter we send together with the signed license a
> sentence stating that we de do not agree with the license. We do sign
> it in order to get access to the journal(s) for our patrons. Every
> time we subscribe to a new journal we discuss the same matter again
> prior to the receipt and signing of the license. It has little to no
> effect, but at least they are aware of our objections.
>
> Best regards,
>
> José Sterk
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, 14 Mar 2013 10:24:03 +0100
>
> Subject: Re: About Nature post-cancellation policy
>
> I can't speak to the particulars of Nature's contracts and know
> nothing about the fees, but what does it mean to sign a contract under
> protest? A contract is a contract.
>
> Joe Esposito
>
>
> On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 10:28 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> From: "Sterk, J.M.E." <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Wed, 13 Mar 2013 16:23:12 +0000
>>
>> Dear colleagues,
>>
>> Indeed, the new policy of charging an annual post-cancellation fee was
>> introduced in 2006. We did have long discussions with Nature, but in
>> the end we signed the licenses under protest. And each year with
>> renewals and new subscriptions we discussed it, again without result,
>> and we went ahead and signed under protest. The amount of the fee
>> however is not mentioned in the license. We had to ask specifically
>> and just recently received the overview of the different fees.
>>
>> Best regards,
>>
>> José Sterk
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Joseph Esposito <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Tue, 12 Mar 2013 11:12:17 +0100
>>
>> Were these cancellation fees stated in the contract your institution
>> originally signed?  I have never seen a Nature contract and am simply
>> wondering if this is new deal point raised after a contract has been
>> signed or something that was disclosed and agreed to up front.
>>
>> Joe Esposito