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From: Anne Osterman <[log in to unmask]>
 Date: Tue, 30 Oct 2018 17:31:48 +0000

Thank you for highlighting VIVA’s whole ebook lending program, Joe.  We are
pleased to be working with our publisher partners (Brill, Oxford University
Press, Taylor & Francis, and Wiley) on a clear lending approach for
ebooks.  Our rights include both lending the whole DRM-free ebook, when it
is available on the platform, and the ability to create a single file from
the chapter pdfs that comprise the work.  Sample language from one of the
contracts is copied below.



*Fulfill requests from other libraries, in print format or by secure
electronic transmission, including OCLC Article Exchange, Ariel, Odyssey,
and/or ILLiad interlibrary loan software systems, individual chapters or
whole ebooks from the Licensed Works (including a single file created by
the lending library from the chapter pdfs that comprise a given title) for
scholarly, personal, educational, or scientific research or professional
use, but in no case for resale or other Commercial Use, and provided that
the relevant copyright notices and appropriate credit information are also
transmitted.*



There is still significant work to be done to incorporate this approach
into existing systems and workflows.



Best –

Anne.



Anne C. Osterman

VIVA Director

George Mason University

4400 University Drive, MSN 2FL

Fairfax, VA  22030

703-993-4652

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*From:* LibLicense-L Discussion Forum [mailto:[log in to unmask]]
*On Behalf Of *LIBLICENSE
*Sent:* Thursday, October 25, 2018 9:55 PM
*To:* [log in to unmask]
*Subject:* Re: Controlled digital lending





From: Joseph Wickens <[log in to unmask]>

Date: Thu, 25 Oct 2018 10:27:18 -0300

Hi Steven,

The fact remains that these books are not now lendable and that many
libraries increasingly favour this format and  I am not sure what kind of
exemptions could be written into any copyright law that could make this
possible (except for the inclusion of stipulations regarding DRM).
"Lending" an e-book is actually giving a digital copy of the item to the
end-user which differs radically from a physical copy which is actually
loaned, and returned.  I think the problem is not a copyright problem  *and*
a technical problem but only a technical one. If providing another
library's patron the use of an ebook could be done in such a way that the
file could be secured so as to limit use and prohibit reproduction we would
have something that publishers could agree to.  Some efforts in this
direction have been made, most notably Occam's Reader
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but the process is by no means perfect. And there are even some enlightened
publishers who have allowed e-lending without (as far as I can tell) any of
the DRM measures you would think they would want (see VIVA's ebook lending
agreement).
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I think a united effort by the bright people and the people of good will is
needed to crack this one and sooner the better.

Thanks

Joe Wickens





On Wed, Oct 24, 2018 at 10:47 PM LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: "Sowards, Steve" <[log in to unmask]>

Date: Wed, 24 Oct 2018 12:11:46 +0000

Of course, the ILL problem behind “electronic format only” is not because
of the format per se. The key problem is the fact that copyright law
exemptions for ILL have not caught up with the evolution of scholarly
publishing. The technical problems for e-book lending could be solved by
bright people, but won’t be as long as we have legislation (and
legislators, and lobbyists) standing in the way.



Steven Sowards

Associate Director for Collections

Michigan State University Libraries

366 W. Circle Drive

East Lansing MI 48824







From: Joseph Wickens <[log in to unmask]>

Date: Tue, 23 Oct 2018 13:20:13 -0300

And the "the loss of the twenty-first century" is our inability to share
the bulk of library book collections from 2000 forward with other libraries
at all because they are being acquired in electronic format only.  This
forum addresses the most important problem facing Interlibrary Lending
today. Thanks for sharing, Jim.



Joe Wickens



On Tue, Oct 23, 2018 at 12:27 AM LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

From: "Jim O'Donnell" <[log in to unmask]>

Date: Mon, 22 Oct 2018 06:27:52 -0700

Last week, the Internet Archive's open library forum was devoted to the
practice and possibilities of controlled digital lending, a way of relying
on fair use to begin to make in-copyright library materials available to
the public digitally while respecting copyright and complying with the
law.  Three recent documents:



1.  a longer white paper on the subject:
https://osf.io/preprints/lawarxiv/7fdyr/
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  Further document is included at
https://controlleddigitallending.org/readings
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2.  a more concise 'position statement' authored by legal scholars at
Harvard, NYU, Georgetown, Duke, and the Internet Archive:
https://controlleddigitallending.org/statement
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3.  an even more concise blog post by Duke's scholarly communications
librarian David Hansen summarizing the issues:
https://blogs.library.duke.edu/scholcomm/2018/09/28/controlled-digital-lending-of-library-books/
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The problem addressed is critical, what Brewster Kahle of the IA calls "the
loss of the twentieth century" -- our collective inability to access the
bulk of the material in our library collections, from the 1920s forward, in
any form other than print.



Jim O'Donnell

Arizona State University


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