From: "Bernd-Christoph Kämper (UB)" <
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Date: Wed, 23 Jan 2019 10:43:53 +0100
No, Leo.
Your contract is clearly a Read an Publish contract, because it explicitely
says that the amount of money charged (which includes 3.5% price increase
per annum) will be adjusted if the value of the Wiley journal database will
change by more than 5% through journals acquired or transferred. There is
also a clear statement that the contract allows unlimited hybrid OA
publishing and the price will not change because of that. In the German
contract it is just the other way around. The 2750 EUR is fixed and the
annual payments made in advance will be adjusted depending on the actual
numbers of articles published by corresponding authors from the DEAL
institutions.
The 1600 EUR RAP per article is an inferred price based on the estimated
number of articles published and the negotiated price of the contract. It
is mentioned only in the analysis you have linked to and is not part of the
contract. So my guess is that the difference to the German PAR must reflect
that your institutions have collectively paid less in subscriptions before
than the German DEAL institutions, when calculated in relation to the
number of articles published. Either because your journal collections were
smaller, or because dutch Scientists publish more in Wiley journals than
their german colleagues. This assumes that the publisher's aim was not to
loose money overall. Do you have a comparison value for the value of the
total subscription fees per article under your previous deal (that was not
yet Read and Publish, I assume)? Also, I would be interested to learn about
the corresponding value in Germany under the existing deals (before
entering the new PAR agreement). Perhaps someone from Project DEAL can
comment.
Best regards,
Bernd-Christoph Kämper, Stuttgart University Library
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From: leo waaijers <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 22 Jan 2019 12:34:09 +0100
No, no. The Wiley contract (which can be found here
<https://www.vsnu.nl/files/documenten/Domeinen/Onderzoek/Open%20access/Wiley.pdf>
) is a PaR contract, although this acronym did not exist at the time.
My personal guess is that Wiley still operates a value based pricing
scheme, as in the good old subscription era, which means that the price is
based on the perceived wealth of the buyer. And, well, if Germany is the
buyer ….
Leo Waaijers
From: "Hinchliffe, Lisa W" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, 21 Jan 2019 16:59:13 +0000
I imagine the "unexplained" difference is that the Netherlands price is for
an OA article in a hybrid journal that creates global access for that
article vs the German PAR that is global access for the article + for a
portion of the read access DEAL has secured for over 700 German
institutions to the non-OA articles in Wiley journals. Whereas, in the
Netherlands, institutions must still subscribe to the non-OA content. I.e.,
the Netherlands has an offset not a PAR agreement. Lisa
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From: leo waaijers <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sat, 19 Jan 2019 18:10:41 +0100
An interesting (and unexplained) price difference to the Netherlands, where
we pay € 1600 per Wiley article.
See: https://www.qoam.eu/Content/documents/Price-per-article.pdf
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.qoam.eu_Content_documents_Price-2Dper-2Darticle.pdf&d=DwMFaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=EE5vJ-IOLjGK--oAkNW9DMFEo5gGTLnGLRqx-7NCwVg&m=1kHzUw1GpxNr4X4FIkfAzJC6BGEPUXM_EEmJPtAZs5g&s=Z6Js3amuHSiXqUlFHtLwZliIVh08MSi5bgec6kYE1rY&e=>
Leo Waaijers
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From: "Hinchliffe, Lisa W" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, 16 Jan 2019 21:40:18 +0000
Today brings an analysis of the financials of this deal from Marcel
Knöchelmann - working out to an estimate of the total cost of this deal to
Germany being about 30m Euro – see:
“The PAR fee of €2,750 is quite high. With the estimated annual publishing
volume being 10,000 articles, the initial price tag of the contract may be
€27,500,000. This is not explicitly stated in the fact sheet issued by DEAL
and is also subject to variation. However, the cost of €27,5m excludes the
cost for gold open access. If Wiley’s current rate of gold open access
publications is estimated to be 15% for articles in Germany, there will be
additional costs for gold open access APCs for about 1,500 articles. This
would amount to €2,823,000 (€1,882 x 1,500 if the APCs of Wiley’s fully
open access journal portfolio is averaged); with the 20% discount this
would be about €2,25m. All in all, the PAR agreement may amount to annual
costs of roughly €30m.”
https://www.lepublikateur.de/2019/01/16/pay-to-publish-open-access-deal-wiley-agreement/
<https://urldefense.proofpoint.com/v2/url?u=https-3A__www.lepublikateur.de_2019_01_16_pay-2Dto-2Dpublish-2Dopen-2Daccess-2Ddeal-2Dwiley-2Dagreement_&d=DwMFaQ&c=OCIEmEwdEq_aNlsP4fF3gFqSN-E3mlr2t9JcDdfOZag&r=EE5vJ-IOLjGK--oAkNW9DMFEo5gGTLnGLRqx-7NCwVg&m=1kHzUw1GpxNr4X4FIkfAzJC6BGEPUXM_EEmJPtAZs5g&s=0PCVz--MhibVbL2HU0XNNEiMGhCDLi4UJ2DlCzNJe4I&e=>
Another very interesting observation that Marcel includes is that, while
Wiley got a PAR fee of €2,750 per article, DEAL had only offered Elsevier
€2,000 per article (which Elsevier rejected).
I wonder if Wiley has now managed to set the minimum PAR per article
payment for the industry – at a level that is actually higher than the
average Wiley Gold APC!
Lisa
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