From: Richard Poynder <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, 25 Jun 2012 13:34:10 +0100
Subject: Re: The Finch Report: UCL's David Price Responds

Anthony,

Paul Ayris' views on this topic can be read here:

http://poynder.blogspot.fr/2012/06/finch-report-in-global-open-access.html

A quote:

"Where does the Finch view sit in a global OA world? A new report by
John Houghton and Alma Swan, financed by the JISC and to be published
imminently, takes a different look at the OA debate.

“Houghton and Swan have undertaken detailed economic modelling,
something missing from Finch, to compare the costs of Green and Gold
Open Access if a university unilaterally opted for either of these
routes, or if the whole world changed to either Green or Gold.

"Their analysis tells us a lot about the difficulties of transition to
a fully OA environment. Their conclusion is that, for universities, at
the present time the most cost effective route is for a University to
opt for Green OA. Should the whole world turn OA, then their modelling
supports Finch, in that the biggest saving for a University would come
from Gold (Chart 23 in the forthcoming Report)."

By the way, I do not think others agree that the LERU Roadmap is
consistent with the recommendations of the Finch Report, as you seem
to imply.

See here for instance:

http://poynder.blogspot.co.uk/2012/06/finch-report-in-global-open-access.htmlshowComment=1340622582152#c1050690665416819839

Richard Poynder

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From: Anthony Watkinson <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 21 Jun 2012 10:18:57 +0100

This time I did read through your advocacy piece Richard and did not find
anything particularly special in David Price's remarks. I could not help
comparing them with the excellent and balanced speech to the PA made by
David Willetts. It goes against the grain to find anything good in the
present UK government but I do in this case.

My impression is those pressing for OA, at least among the library sector
and even within UCL, have moved on. A roadmap has been produced by the
information officers of the League of European Research Universities (LERU).
This organisation is chaired by none other than Paul Ayris of UCL, an Open
Access advocate.

I think it is an excellent document (on the whole) and suggests the ways in
which major research intensive universities might move OA forward in a
sustainable way. It has not been much promoted or commented on and I would
now like to bring it to general attention: see:
http://www.leru.org/files/publications/LERU_AP8_Open_Access.pdf . It does
consider the special problem within the humanities.

Anthony