From: Andrew Pitts <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 2 Jul 2019 09:14:14 +0000
Dear Angie,
You mention here usage and Cost per Use. If a lot of usage is going
directly to Sci-Hub and ResearchGate, your CPU will increase and you may
think about the deal you have differently. If the CPU was $0.25 cents per
download or $100 per download, they would be treated differently.
Do you allow access to Sci-Hub from your University network? Do you know
how many times you bring articles down from Sci-Hub into your network? Do
you receive COUNTER usage reports from Sci-Hub?
How many times has your University been hacked by Sci-Hub where they steal
credentials from your users and download an article to place it for free on
sci-Hub? They are doing this because there is a huge demand for Sci-Hub to
have the latest articles available immediately.
I deal with agents globally and have been told by many agents working
outside of the USA and Europe, that the medium to smaller Universities are
not renewing subs with some smaller publishers because their patrons are
going to Sci-hub. This is for the smaller niche society publishers, who may
have a slightly higher CPU. How awful would it be if many small societies
were to have their deals cancelled by Universities because most of the
usage went to Sci-Hub and ResearchGate, and their CPU increased to a level
that made you want to cancel it?
I truly believe Sci-Hub and ResearchGate are inevitably part of the
decision making process, purely because they make it impossible to track
usage and nobody really knows how many downloads are from their
University. The 400,000 downloads per day that Sci-Hub report are coming
mostly from the USA and Western European Universities, as we saw from the
anonymous usage that was given to Science magazine in the past.
Andrew
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From: Angela Maranville <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 30 Jun 2019 16:21:35 +0000
Agreed! During our negotiations and subsequent unbundling last year,
neither ResearchGate or SciHub were part of the decision. Instead we
focused on many of the metrics discussed below, such as cost, usage, CPU,
plus number of WVU citations and articles to drive the decision making as
well implemented more robust ILL practices to provide access to
unsubscribed resources.
Best,
Angie
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Director, Knowledge Access & Resource Management
Assistant University Librarian
West Virginia University Libraries
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From: Rick Anderson <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 28 Jun 2019 02:47:14 +0000
And just to emphasize what I said before: at my institution, anyway, we’re
not talking about taking ResearchGate or (especially) SciHub into account
when making cancellation decisions. We’re talking about utilizing
Unpaywall, which focuses specifically on finding legitimate copies in legal
repositories.
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Rick Anderson
Assoc. Dean for Collections & Scholarly Communication
Marriott Library, University of Utah
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From: "Hinchliffe, Lisa W" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 23:20:00 +0000
But surely usage is considered? And as usage goes elsewhere it
devalues the big deal because the cost per download goes up.
Librarians don't have to be endorsing or encouraging use of
ResearchGate (or SciHub), whether to access licit or illicit copies,
for the reality of that use to be impacting on ata that effects
library subscriptions to content?
Lisa Janicke Hinchliffe
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From: Joanne Romano <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 27 Jun 2019 15:33:18 +0000
I agree with Lucy's sentiments here. Budget levels, subscription price
increases, terms of use, ease of use, etc., are also my top concerns
also when negotiating with publishers.
Any user can choose to obtain free, pirated content from either
ResearchGate or SciHub. But this fact does not influence my
decision-making, and isn't considered, when it comes to subscription
renewals.
Best regards,
Joanne
Joanne V. Romano, MLS
Head of Resource Management
Texas Medical Center Library
1133 John Freeman Blvd.
Houston, TX 77030
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From: "Maziar, Lucy (EDU)" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, 26 Jun 2019 18:49:26 +0000
It has certainly never been in the background on any negotiations with
vendors that I have been involved in. My negotiations have always
about rising costs, static or reduced budgets, and the value of the
resource to my community along with license terms, customer service,
ease of use, etc. Sci Hub and ResearchGate are never in my mind. I
also would like to see the data that supports that statement that they
are in the background of every library negotiation with publishers.
Best,
Lucy
Lucia Maziar
Library Director
US Coast Guard Academy
Library (DL)
35 Mohegan Ave
New London CT 06320
860.444.8517
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