From: "Brian C. Gray" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 23:31:17 -0500

My guess of harm to customers and public include:

Customers pay the legal costs in reality, as Elsevier passes those on
in some form

Increased possibility for false and/or ability to authenticate versions located

Titles may fail if a lot the subscribers cancel


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On Mon, Jun 26, 2017 at 9:48 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
> From: David Prosser <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Mon, 26 Jun 2017 09:51:40 +0000
>
> Reading the Nature article I see:
>
> "The defendants’ “unlawful activities have caused and will continue to
> cause irreparable injury to Elsevier, its customers and the public,”
> Elsevier’s New York-based attorneys, DeVore & DeMarco, told the
> court."
>
> I can understand how one might make a case for harm to the publisher
> (although proving it might be tricky) - but I’m struggling to think
> what the case might be for harm to customers and the public. Am I
> missing something obvious?
>
> David
>
>
> On 23 Jun 2017, at 07:16, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: Ann Shumelda Okerson <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Fri, 23 Jun 2017 02:12:15 -0400
>
> "One of the world's largest science publishers, Elsevier, won a
> default legal judgement on 21 June against websites that provide
> illicit access to tens of millions of research papers and books. A New
> York district court awarded Elsevier US$15 million in damages for
> copyright infringement by Sci-Hub, the Library of Genesis (LibGen)
> project and related sites."
>
> [SNIP]
>
> "But academic publishing observers following the case have questioned
> whether Elsevier will ever see any damages from Elbakyan, who resides
> outside the court's jurisdiction and has no assets in the United
> States. The ruling is also unlikely to prompt Sci-Hub or other pirate
> sites to close up shop."
>
> http://www.nature.com/news/us-court-grants-elsevier-millions-in-damages-from-sci-hub-1.22196
>
> See also this:
>
> "The Association of American Publishers (AAP) welcomes the June 21,
> 2017 ruling of the United States District Court for the Southern
> District of New York regarding the willful infringement of scores of
> scholarly articles protected by copyright law. Ruling in favor of
> Elsevier, the publisher that brought the action, the Court entered a
> default judgment against Sci-Hub, the Library Genesis Project, and a
> number of related sites, and against the defendant operator."
>
> [SNIP]
>
> http://newsroom.publishers.org/the-association-of-american-publishers-welcomes-major-judgement-against-sci-hub-pirate-site/