From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, 27 Jun 2012 23:07:19 -0500
Are you just misinformed, Ari? There are a number of universities that
run their own distribution operations and also have presses that
operate them, such as Chicago, Cornell, Johns Hopkins, North Carolina,
etc. Even as small a press as Penn State runs its own warehouse and
fulfills orders from bookstores, libraries, and individuals. Why do
you think universities are incapable of operating such businesses?
Sandy Thatcher
> From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 22:04:42 -0700
>
> Well, Sandy - if you were answering my comment, you misfired.
>
> You replaced my word "distribution" by your "publishing".
>
> A University is a king on its own territory and has no facilities to
> distribute outside. It has to deal with distributors. It will cost
> cheaper but not that much.
>
> I remember that before I was printing a book I was offered by a
> distributor to give up my rights for 10% of expected revenue, but when
> I printed it on my own I was offered just a bit more - 20%.
>
> Ari Belenkiy
>
> Richmond BC
>
> On Tue, Jun 26, 2012 at 7:02 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
>> From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Tue, 26 Jun 2012 08:17:56 -0500
>>
>> Really? All the university presses in England count for nothing? What
>> an extraordinary claim!
>>
>> Sandy Thatcher
>>
>>
>> > From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]>
>> > Date: Sun, 24 Jun 2012 23:04:01 -0700
>> >
>> > But David, Finch made it clear that Universities lack the means for
>> > distribution of its faculty's works.
>> >
>> > This is the vocation of publishers who reap the dividends.
>
> > >
> > > That's why the authors of the books receive only 10% of revenue - the
> > > rest goes to a publisher.
> > >
> > > Ari Belenkiy
> > > Richmond BC
> > >
> > >
> > > On Sun, Jun 24, 2012 at 7:04 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>>
>> >
>> >> From: David Prosser <[log in to unmask]>
>> >> Date: Sat, 23 Jun 2012 13:58:54 +0100
>> >>
>> >> Joe
>> >>
>> >> Research university X already gives away its intellectual property and
>> >> then spends much more than non-research universities in buying access
>> >> to the intellectual property of other research universities. Where's
>> >> the strategic thinking there?
>> >>
>> >> And of course, a lot of the research done isn't paid for by the
>> >> universities themselves - it's paid for by research funders such as
>> >> NIH in the US and the Research Councils in the UK. For the NIH to
>> >> ensure that NIH-funded researcher in University N has access to
>> >> research outputs generated by NIH-funded researcher at University M
>> >> looks to me the epitome of strategic thinking.
>> >
>> > >
>> > > David
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