From: "M. Soledad Bravo-Marchant" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2013 11:04:04 -0300
Estimados:
Maybe I will be self-referential, but I really would appreciate the
collection of more information in order to address such judgments
about open access experiences in Latin America
SciELO began in 1997 and now it is in thirteen countries in Latin
America (with different levels of development).
In many countries SciELO is part of public policies to support
scientific and technological research, their administration is
centralized in ONCYT's and its public value is out of question
Perhaps the most distinctive feature of this regional experience is a
different valoration about the public value of scientific
communication and how governments, in despite of different ideological
affiliations, design incentives to keep this experience alive.
I expect that my comments (in English) will be published. My original
comments (in Spanish) remains unpublished until today (maybe lost in
the moderator's email)
Saludos a todos
Soledad Bravo
El 27/03/2013 9:19, M. Soledad Bravo-Marchant escribió:
Estimados
A riesgo de ser autorreferente, agradeceria el acopio de más
información para poder emitir esos juicios tan rotundos sobre las
experiencias de acceso abierto en América Latina
El Programa SciELO se inició en 1997 y está presente en trece países
de América Latina, hasta ahora, con distintos grados de desarrollo.
En muchos países es parte de las políticas públicas de apoyo a la
investigación científica y tecnológica, su administración está
centralizada en las ONCYT's y su valor público no está puesto en duda.
Tal vez lo que subyace en esta experiencia regional es una mirada
distinta sobre el valor público de la comunicación científica y cómo
los gobiernos, con independencia de sus adscripciones ideológicas,
colocan los incentivos para mantener esta experiencia en el tiempo.
Reciban todos un cordial saludo
Soledad Bravo-Marchant
El 27/03/2013 0:15, LIBLICENSE escribió:
From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Mon, 25 Mar 2013 23:09:03 -0500
From: Jean-Claude Guédon <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 24 Mar 2013 21:46:00 -0400
You might want to look at the SciELO and Redalyc models in latin
America. Both are supported mainly by public money and some foundation
money.
Given the history of regime change in Latin America, I wouldn't feel
terribly confident about relyoing on government support as a long-term
strategy.
Here in the U.S. we have just seen Congress defund political science
research. They are certainly going to pay for making it OA.
An endowment is ideal, of course, but the vagaries of politics and
priorities are not so different from the vagaries of the market,
except when oligopoles manage to work without having to pay much (if
any) attention to the market.
Jean-Claude Guédon
Professeur titulaire
Littérature comparée
Université de Montréal
Le dimanche 24 mars 2013 à 12:40 -0400, LIBLICENSE a écrit :
From: Sandy Thatcher <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Fri, 22 Mar 2013 00:15:09 -0500
I would be interested in knowing more about how OA models that do not
depend on authors paying manage to ensure that OA can be done more
cost efficiently than regular subscription-based publishing.
The example cited here is OpenEdition's Freemium program, which
charges libraries for extra services beyond the basic delivery of the
articles in OA form.
What assurances are there that library funding will be available, in
sufficient amounts, on an ongoing basis to cover the full costs of
running the OpenEdition operation? In times when budgets are tight,
why should universities spend the money to get these extra services
when the basic information is all free anyway?
I note that the Centre that Mr. Dacos heads is supported by a
combination of government and private foundation money. Given that
both of these sources are subject to vagaries of politics and
priorities from year to year, how can these be considered stable
sources of long-term financing?
For my money, the only really sensible approach for sustaining OA over
time is to set it up on the basis of endowments, as the Stanford
Encyclopedia of Philosophy has done--a magnificent example of OA
publishing in the humanities, by the way.
Sandy Thatcher
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