From: Philip DiVietro <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Wed, 14 Feb 2018 01:20:31 +0000
Sci-Hub is a pirate site that now has tremendous resources supporting
it. Mirror servers and the like in several countries, Russia in
particular.
Yet the young lady does not have a penny to her name. So how does that
happen? She has become nothing more than a simple façade for something
far more serious.
Philip V. DiVietro
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From: "Jean-Claude Guédon" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 13 Feb 2018 17:51:20 -0500
Hmmmmmm From Marx to Proudhon as if it were an equivalence... ??? How
can Elbakyan be an avowed communist ideologue while her basic premise
is "...right out of the French anarchist thinker Proudhon".
Does this mean that the Philosophy of poverty is the same book as the
Poverty of Philosophy?
Amusing...
Regarding Sci-Hub, it is not Open Access, it is something else. I am
not sure how to label Sci-Hub, but, please, do not confuse Sci-Hub and
Open Access.
As for the source, The Verge, does anyone know anything about its
reliability? It reads like a tabloid.
Jean-Claude Guédon
Le lundi 12 février 2018 à 20:42 -0500, LIBLICENSE a écrit :
From: SANFORD G THATCHER <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 11 Feb 2018 19:40:35 -0500
This is a very interesting article and, as far as I can tell, accurate
in its reporting of the facts.
What surprises me is that in acountry like the United States that has
a long history of anti-communism so many people in academe want to
play ball with an avowed communist ideologue like Elbakyan. Her basic
premise comes right out of the French anarchist thinker Proudhon, who
famously said "Property is theft!" I wonder how many of her supporters
really would like to see the US turned into an authoritarian country
like Russia, which is what Elbakyan wants to happen.
Like Peter Suber, as he well knows, I have been a supporter of open
access going back to a time when that term did not yet exist, and I
agree with him that Sci-Hub gives open access a bad name. While
thinking she is working in the public interest, she has done untold
damage to university press publishing in this country by encouraging
the theft of monographs as well as journal articles. A lot of presses
with journals programs depend on surpluses from those programs to
internally subsidize publication of monographs, so efforts like hers
have resulted in making it ever more difficult for junior scholars
especially to find outlets for their monographs. There are a few
efforts to do open-access monograph publishing, but they are way
behind where OA journal publishing is and meanwhile untold damage is
being done to young scholars'
careers and futures through the externalities of programs like Sci-Hub
and LibGen.
Ironically, publishers' efforts to combat Sci-Hub have led them to
bring the courts into the fray and strengthen legal precedents that
can be used against other, perhaps more constructive OA undertakings.
Sci-Hub's legacy may be a more repressive legal environment
overall--not that Elbakyan cares because her ultimate aim is to bring
down capitalism itself.
Sandy Thatcher
On Sun, Feb 11, 2018 05:19 PM LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
From: Ann Okerson <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, Feb 11, 2018 at 4:52 PM
"In cramped quarters at Russia’s Higher School of Economics, shared by
four students and a cat, sat a server with 13 hard drives. The server
hosted Sci-Hub, a website with over 64 million academic papers
available for free to anybody in the world. It was the reason that,
one day in June 2015, Alexandra Elbakyan, the student and programmer
with a futurist streak and a love for neuroscience blogs, opened her
email to a message from the world’s largest publisher: 'YOU HAVE BEEN
SUED.'"
https://www.theverge.com/2018/2/8/16985666/alexandra-elbakyan-sci-hub-open-access-science-papers-lawsuit
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