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From: Ari Belenkiy <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Thu, 24 Oct 2013 13:26:55 -0700
I cannot agree more with Fred Jenkins' observation about "religious
fervor" associated with OA.
In the "first" part of this thread on Bohannon's article I proposed a
simple statistical test for the major "red rag" of OA's proponents -
the Beall's list.
I made some assumptions and proposed several different ways to discuss
the problem.
There was no response to that message. Are there any reactions or
comments? I would welcome them.
Ari Belenkiy
SFU
Canada
> On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 2:13 PM, LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
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>> From: Fred Jenkins <[log in to unmask]>
>> Date: Tue, 22 Oct 2013 20:34:24 -0400
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>> Fred Friend is, of course, entitled to his opinion. I don't think
>> there is anything unfair (or inaccurate) in the observation that many
>> OA advocates immediately circle the wagons whenever OA journals are
>> criticized, whether rightly or wrongly. It would be much easier to
>> have productive conversations about OA if it were not a matter of
>> religious fervor to so many.
>>
>> Re. Thomas Krichel's message: Plagiarism is only one problem and of
>> much less concern than articles that are just wrong or based on cooked
>> evidence. Robots are not so likely to solve that aspect of failed
>> peer review. And, in response to Scott, I certainly don't exempt the
>> toll journals from this failing. We see far to many retracted papers
>> in ostensibly sound, respected journals. More of them should have
>> been caught before publication. It will never be a perfect system,
>> but it has to be better than this.
>>
>> Fred W. Jenkins, Ph.D.
>> Professor and Associate Dean for Collections and Operations
>> University of Dayton Libraries
>> 106A Roesch Library
>> 300 College Park
>> Dayton, OH 45469-1360
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