From: "Jim O'Donnell" <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 15:01:34 -0700

With thanks to several, esp. Ronald Snijder of OAPEN.  Here's what I have
learned.

1.  Once in the OAPEN/DOAB database, you can filter by "Collection" or
"Grantor" and see KU items (over 4,000 so far).  I do not yet see a way to
filter and sort by subject area, but it may be there and my efforts have
simply failed.  How the average user would know to execute such an OAPEN
search, I cannot tell.

2.  In our online catalog, a search on the exact string "Knowledge
Unlatched" brings up 492 items, or about ten percent of what's out there.
There is not an intuitive way to get to the OAPEN/DOAB page for a search
within our catalog (i.e., I haven't found one).  But a search of our
databases on the same phrase comes up null.  May I call this a limited
functionality?

3.  I realize that what I am probably looking for is something akin to a
publisher's catalog, provided by KU and organized by them to maximum
marketing and information effect.  Yes, KU is not a publisher; but yes, KU
is very like a publisher and has the same interest in making known what
books it has opened that a publisher has in making known what it has
contracted, edited, and formally published.  That feels as if it would be
relatively easy for KU to do and would help scholars, librarians, and
potential subscribers understand and appreciate KU and its mission and
achievements.

I said in my first note that I felt strongly I must be missing something
and it turns out I was missing the DOAB searchability, which I think is
still quite limited.  I may be missing other things and would be glad to be
set straight.  And it would be interesting to hear KU's thoughts about
discovery and discoverability of their titles.

Jim O'Donnell
ASU

On Sun, Apr 14, 2024 at 12:55 PM LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:

> From: Ronald Snijder <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Sun, 14 Apr 2024 17:45:49 +0000
>
> Actually, there is a way to filter.
>
> Start here:
>
>
> https://library.oapen.org/discover?filtertype_1=collection&filter_relational_operator_1=contains&filter_1=Knowledge+Unlatched+&submit_apply_filter=&query=%22Knowledge+Unlatched%22
>
> Then, use the "Add filter" button to add additional filters.
>
> If you have very specific questions, please send me a direct mail.
>
> Hope this is useful!
>
> Kind regards,
>
> Ronald Snijder, PhD
>
>
> CTO/Head of Research OAPEN Foundation
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> From: Sean Andrews <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Fri, 12 Apr 2024 11:43:10 -0500
>
> Hi Jim,
>
> I am not familiar with the way it might interact with the databases and
> metadata collections you are talking about, but probably the best place to
> find the KU collection is in the OAPEN site that collects all their
> releases.
>
>
> https://library.oapen.org/browse?type=collection&value=Knowledge+Unlatched+%28KU%29
>
> Unfortunately it doesn't seem that you can filter by collection in the
> "Advanced Search" function so that is not helpful for the kind of discovery
> you are talking about. But maybe there is a different trick that can be
> used with the export of the data from their site (which is here:
> https://www.oapen.org/article/metadata.)
>
> Thanks,
> Sean
>
> --
> Sean Johnson Andrews
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> Associate Professor of Cultural Studies
> Columbia College Chicago
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>
> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 12:47 AM LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]> wrote:
>
> From: "Jim O'Donnell" <[log in to unmask]>
> Date: Thu, 11 Apr 2024 22:27:03 -0700
>
> I may be missing something, or else this is instructive.  I've followed
> Knowledge Unlatched for a decade, always interested, but never quite
> persuaded.  (Full disclosure:  my institution does not subscribe.)  I
> realize on reading this and following the links that I have two questions
> about discovery.
>
> First, is there in any convenient place a conspectus of KU books,
> conveniently arranged for browsing by subject areas, that could entice me
> to look into books I've not heard of or not gotten around to admiring up
> close?  I can't find that on the KU website.  If we think of KU as a kind
> of redistributive publisher, I'd like to be able to browse *their* catalog.
>
> Second, what is the underlying strategy of discovery?  The access to MARC
> records on the website suggests that readers are *expected* to encounter
> these items in library online catalogs where institutions have taken the
> time and trouble to import MARC records -- and then they will be found only
> by those using classic discovery tools with a particular personal focus.
> For example, if there is the definitive work on the lesser works of Fulke
> Greville in the series, I will find it if I am pursuing Greville but not
> otherwise.
>
> I say again, I may be missing something, even something obvious, and I
> apologize for that if that's the case, and would appreciate being set
> right.  But I have a growing concern about how users discover new
> scholarship in the real world.  How do these very good books get found?
>
> Jim O'Donnell
> ASU
>
>
> [SNIP]
>