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From: David Groenewegen <[log in to unmask]>
Date: Tue, 11 Dec 2018 17:12:53 +1100

There is a transcript (with translation) of a open access conference
appearance at UNT by Elbakyan at:

https://openaccess.unt.edu/symposium/2016/info/transcript-and-translation-sci-hub-presentation

I assume this is what Sandy is referring to, it is from 2016.

DAVID GROENEWEGEN
Director, Research
Library
Monash University

On 11/12/2018 6:00 am, LIBLICENSE wrote:
> From: SANFORD G THATCHER <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
> Date: Mon, 10 Dec 2018 10:16:28 -0500
>
> If you read my post carefully, you would understand that it was not I
> who was
> characterizing Sci-Hub in terms of Marxist ideology. This is how Elbakyan
> herself characterized what she was doing in an interview.
>
> Sure, what she has done with Sci-Hub can be framed in multiple other
> ways, but
> it strikes me as important to recognize how the founder herself
represented
> wbat she hoped her handiwork would accomplish.
>
> Others on this list who were present at the UNT conference, like Kevin
> Hawkins,
> can speak to whether what I heard is what I have stated here.
>
> Sandy Thatcher
>
>
>
> On Mon, Dec 10, 2018 01:39 AM LIBLICENSE <[log in to unmask]
> <mailto:[log in to unmask]>> wrote:
> >
>>From: Jan Velterop <[log in to unmask] <mailto:[log in to unmask]>>
>>Date: Sun, 9 Dec 2018 23:55:15 +0100
>>
>>What Sci-Hub does is no-doubt against existing law. But framing it as a
>>“Marxist attempt to destroy capitalism” is quite an exaggerated
>>characterisation. It could also be framed as a resistance movement
>>objecting to much that’s perceived as wrong with scholarly communication,
>>particularly restricting access to scientific knowledge as a privilege for
>>the wealthy instead of making it freely accessible as a common good
>> for the world.
>>
>>Framing it as such, as a protest against injustice, will inevitably accept
>>that illegal action may well be part of it, as it often is in such
>>circumstances. Civil disobedience and actions that are considered illegal
>>are inherent in most protest against injustice.
>>
>>If you’re into exaggerated comparisons, you may even compare it with, for
>>instance, the actions of the colonies in the American revolution against
>>the then existing law. Without those illegal actions the colonies would
not
>>have achieved the changes that led to their independence.
>>
>>Johannes (Jan) J M Velterop

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